Dec 19, 2014 With enough practice and patience (really doesn't take much) you can significantly increase your odds of winning in blackjack. Again if you're curious as to why the 'count being high' is good for the player: The dealer draws its advantage by being the last 'player' to hit on his hand. Mar 08, 2012 What are the odds of losing the entire 8 bets in the hopes that bank won't win 20 consecutive hands? You are welcome. Now since you would have just witnessed 11 Banker wins in a row, the table is Rocking and big bets are riding the Banker wave, you start to bet Player.
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alexroach1992
What are the odds of losing 14 hands in a row playing perfect basic strategy? (Standing soft 17 with 6 decks)
Also what is the calculation to work out how likely it is to lose x amount of hands in a row?
Many thanks for anyone who can help
Also what is the calculation to work out how likely it is to lose x amount of hands in a row?
Many thanks for anyone who can help
teliot
What are the odds of losing 14 hands in a row playing perfect basic strategy? (Standing soft 17 with 6 decks)
The probability of losing 14 in a row is about p = (0.4787)^14 = 0.00003318. So the odds are about 30140-to-1.
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Also what is the calculation to work out how likely it is to lose x amount of hands in a row?
The probability of losing x in a row is about p = (0.4787)^x. So the odds are about [(1-p)/p] -to-1.
Since I am only giving p to four decimal place accuracy, you shouldn't express the answer with more than 4 significant digits. For example, the odds of losing 30 in a row are about 3964000000-to-1.
mustangsally
The probability of losing 14 in a row is p = (0.4787)^14 = 0.00003318. So the odds are about 30140-to-1. Treasure voyage slot machine jackpot.
nice question OPnow, this is with a Push breaking the streak
i think a player would still be crushed losing 14 hands in a row with a few pushes thrown in too
that also makes it way easier to see that event
if one plays 100 hands i show the chance that somewhere in those 100 hands the chance to lose at least 14 in a row = abouts
1 in 657
1000 hands played = 1 in 59
so my non-professional opinion is more hands played increases the chance of seeing such a streak at least 1 time
when a Push breaks the losing streak
i ran recent cvdata sim of 411,318,396 hands played (400 million rounds)
24,574 losing streaks of 14 and higher for the player (pushes did not break the streak)
the average number of rounds to play to see such a losing run
push breaks the streak = 57,747.591 (from a Markov chain calculation)
push no break the streak = 19,453.96652 (from a Markov chain calculation too)
losing streaks in BJ, in my opinion,
are the highest from the games of Craps, Roulette and Baccarat (with the best HE bets)
because using BS does not take into consideration playing the hand to give the highest hand win percentage
(that would be for tournament style BJ play)
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teliot
now, this is with a Push breaking the streak
i think a player would still be crushed losing 14 hands in a row with a few pushes thrown in too
I get the probability of losing 14 in a row equal to about 8330-to-1 (starting from any fixed hand), when ties don't break the streak.i think a player would still be crushed losing 14 hands in a row with a few pushes thrown in too
alexroach1992
Thanks guys, I've found a site which has a 10p minimum table and 10,000 maximum so I could double up 16 times or so before losing?
I guess it's risky but I would have to be so unlucky playing basic strategy to lose that many times in a row :?(
I guess it's risky but I would have to be so unlucky playing basic strategy to lose that many times in a row :?(
mustangsally
I get the probability of losing 14 in a row equal to about 8330-to-1 (starting from any fixed hand), when ties are allowed to occur in the streak.
that looks good to meso over
100 rounds played the probability to see at least 1 such run of 14 losses increases to abouts 1 in 224
1000 rounds = 1 in 20 (lucky 1)
i would say
not one BJ player would think that should ever happen
i am just guessing on that,
but it could and does happen and should be expected to happen
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mustangsally
Thanks guys, I've found a site which has a 10p minimum table and 10,000 maximum so I could double up 16 times or so before losing?
I guess it's risky but I would have to be so unlucky playing basic strategy to lose that many times in a row :?(
not that risky if you play to win just 1 or 2 times and stop foreverI guess it's risky but I would have to be so unlucky playing basic strategy to lose that many times in a row :?(
the risk lies in playing it more than 1 time and keeping on playing
the more rounds you play the chances keep increasing that you will see such a losing streak
good luck in your fun
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AxelWolf
Thanks guys, I've found a site which has a 10p minimum table and 10,000 maximum so I could double up 16 times or so before losing?
I guess it's risky but I would have to be so unlucky playing basic strategy to lose that many times in a row :?(
If it's online then there's probably a 95% it will happen.I guess it's risky but I would have to be so unlucky playing basic strategy to lose that many times in a row :?(
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alexroach1992
It's on William Hill..I'd imagine all the simulators they use are regulated. Unlikely they would get away with them being rigged?
odiousgambit
3 things and 2 cents*you can spot this kind of post with its subject [in caps no less] 10 miles away and it's always one of two things: the poster has taken a terrible beating several times in a row and thinks it is near impossible
*or is thinking about doing the martingale
*the OP is never interested in learning the math himself, nice try Teliot
so the OP is the latter type ; my 2 cents is, 'forget it'. The martingale has been around for centuries. You can skip the math [which I am thinking is your wont anyway] and just stare that fact in the face. Either that or locate the article about the guy who cleaned out the casinos and the martingale is how he did it.
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exoxeris
Minimum bet = $20
Maximum bet =$3000
First off, what are the chances of banker winning 11 times in a row? How about 20 consecutive wins?
Here is the scenario:
Bank wins 11 hands in a row.
I bet player and lose, then raise the bet according to martingale system.
Hand --- Bet
#12 ---- $20
#13 ---- $40
#14 ---- $80
#15 ---- $160
#16 ---- $320
#17 ---- $640
#18 ---- $1350
#19 ---- $3000
What are the odds of losing the entire 8 bets in the hopes that bank won't win 20 consecutive hands?
Notice that bet #18 and #19 is slightly higher
Thank you
Maximum bet =$3000
First off, what are the chances of banker winning 11 times in a row? How about 20 consecutive wins?
Here is the scenario:
Bank wins 11 hands in a row.
I bet player and lose, then raise the bet according to martingale system.
Hand --- Bet
#12 ---- $20
#13 ---- $40
#14 ---- $80
#15 ---- $160
#16 ---- $320
#17 ---- $640
#18 ---- $1350
#19 ---- $3000
What are the odds of losing the entire 8 bets in the hopes that bank won't win 20 consecutive hands?
Notice that bet #18 and #19 is slightly higher
Thank you
WongBo
Banker won twelve in a row at a table I was playing two days ago.
The probability for eleven in a row is around 1 in 4,000.
The probability for twenty in a row is about 1 in 900,000
You may have to sit through hundreds of shoes for this opportunity.
I've played bac for thirty two years and that was the first time I've seen twelve in a row!
The probability for eleven in a row is around 1 in 4,000.
The probability for twenty in a row is about 1 in 900,000
You may have to sit through hundreds of shoes for this opportunity.
I've played bac for thirty two years and that was the first time I've seen twelve in a row!
DanMahowny
Wait for 11 consecutive losses before placing a bet? I'd rather nail my dick to a burning building.
'I don't have a gambling problem. I have a financial problem.'
thecesspit
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Minimum bet = $20
Maximum bet =$3000
First off, what are the chances of banker winning 11 times in a row? How about 20 consecutive wins?
Here is the scenario:
Bank wins 11 hands in a row.
I bet player and lose, then raise the bet according to martingale system.
Hand --- Bet
#12 ---- $20
#13 ---- $40
#14 ---- $80
#15 ---- $160
#16 ---- $320
#17 ---- $640
#18 ---- $1350
#19 ---- $3000
What are the odds of losing the entire 8 bets in the hopes that bank won't win 20 consecutive hands?
Notice that bet #18 and #19 is slightly higher
Thank you
Maximum bet =$3000
First off, what are the chances of banker winning 11 times in a row? How about 20 consecutive wins?
Here is the scenario:
Bank wins 11 hands in a row.
I bet player and lose, then raise the bet according to martingale system.
Hand --- Bet
#12 ---- $20
#13 ---- $40
#14 ---- $80
#15 ---- $160
#16 ---- $320
#17 ---- $640
#18 ---- $1350
#19 ---- $3000
What are the odds of losing the entire 8 bets in the hopes that bank won't win 20 consecutive hands?
Notice that bet #18 and #19 is slightly higher
Thank you
I assume we are playing player in Baccarat, and ignoring ties.
Doesn't matter what happened on the previous results. Only the next 8 you are actually betting on. After 11 bank wins, the chance of 8 more is roughly 0.4%. After 11 bank losses, the chance of 8 more bank wins in a row is roughly 0.4%. After 5 bank wins and 6 bank losses, the chance of 8 banks is roughly 0.4%.
You have a 99.7% chance of winning ~$20, and a 0.4% chance of losing $5610. Average loss per sequence is $3.91. Plus waiting all day for a 11 banks in a row for a chance of winning $20? 11 banks in a row is 1 in 1816 chance. At 100 hands an hour, you'll be waiting over 18 hours for this to happen. For chance to win $20.
Good luck, chuck.
'Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante' - Honore de Balzac, 1829
guido111
First off, what are the chances of banker winning 11 times in a row? How about 20 consecutive wins?
Per 8 deck shoe (simulation results)run of length 11 banker wins
1.8582% or about 1 in 54 shoes
(in 80 shoes it happened 2 times! High tax bracket for 2 wins)
run of 20 happened only 39 times in 1 million shoes
0.000039 or about 1 in 25,641 shoes
Quote: exoxeris
What are the odds of losing the entire 8 bets in the hopes that bank won't win 20 consecutive hands?
Thank you
You are welcome.Thank you
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Now since you would have just witnessed 11 Banker wins in a row, the table is Rocking and big bets are riding the Banker wave, you start to bet Player.
The probability of losing the very next 8 hands is 0.50682483^8 = 0.004353746
or about 1 in 230
In 1999 I rode an 18 Banker win streak.
I still have some winnings from that.
painlesswon
chances of the next event are 50/50....
WongBo
.458597 banker win
.446247 player win
.095156 tie
Eight deck shoe
.446247 player win
.095156 tie
Eight deck shoe
guido111
Plus waiting all day for a 11 banks in a row for a chance of winning $20? 11 banks in a row is 1 in 1816 chance. At 100 hands an hour, you'll be waiting over 18 hours for this to happen. For chance to win $20.
Good luck, chuck.
There are houses that have 5 to 10 Bac tables going in an eight hour period.Good luck, chuck.
If you can watch all the scorecard displays or watch for a table with a lot of excitement from a Banker run, 11 Banker wins can easily happen at least one time every day.
WongBo
It can also easily not be observed by a player for decades.
Boz
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There are houses that have 5 to 10 Bac tables going in an eight hour period.
If you can watch all the scorecard displays or watch for a table with a lot of excitement from a Banker run, 11 Banker wins can easily happen at least one time every day.
If you can watch all the scorecard displays or watch for a table with a lot of excitement from a Banker run, 11 Banker wins can easily happen at least one time every day.
So you are going to sit all day for a chance to win $20?? And I thought MY life had too much time in it!
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